But the law code itself is God’s good and common sense, each command sane and holy counsel. Died To The Law - Romans 7:1-6 A. If she lives with another man while her husband is living, she’s obviously an adulteress. This is part two of my series the “Four Season of Life.” Last week I talked about our spiritual winters and this morning we will be examining our spiritual fall. We see the original and intended shape of our lives there in him. The law is good. Romans 5:8 teaches us that the heart of God's love for us is, while we were sinners, Christ died for us. Those who enter into Christ’s being-here-for-us no longer have to live under a continuous, low-lying black cloud. John Piper ... Sep 21, 1980 37 Shares Sermon. What Does It Mean to Fulfill the Law in Romans 8:3–4? 9-11 But if God himself has taken up residence in your life, you can hardly be thinking more of yourself than of him. Who would dare even to point a finger? We, of course, don’t see what is enlarging us. The text says this: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can it be. Greek: tois men kath hupomonen ergou agathou doxan kai timen kai aphtharsian zetousin (PAPMPD) zoen aionion,. We’re sitting ducks; they pick us off one by one. We know who he is, and we know who we are: Father and children. Feb 4, 2014. κ. That person ignores who God is and what he is doing. I’m doing God a favor.” Some people are actually trying to put such words in our mouths, c | The Message (MSG) | Download The Bible App Now The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. 26-28 Meanwhile, the moment we get tired in the waiting, God’s Spirit is right alongside helping us along. We are enlarged in the waiting. The created world itself can hardly wait for what’s coming next. Not trouble, not hard times, not hatred, not hunger, not homelessness, not bullying threats, not backstabbing, not even the worst sins listed in Scripture: They kill us in cold blood because they hate you.We’re sitting ducks; they pick us off one by one. First 30-days on us! But if he dies, she is quite free to marry another man in good conscience, with no one’s disapproval. 8 ThereisthereforenownocondemnationforthosewhoareinChristJesus.12 ForthelawofhtheSpiritoflifeiha… We are not speaking about that. Romans is the fort Knox of the Christians faith, written to the center of the Roman civilization, it is the doctrine of the gospel – the problem with mankind and the living hope in Christ. If we don’t know how or what to pray, it doesn’t matter. It’s adventurously expectant, greeting God with a childlike “What’s next, Papa?” God’s Spirit touches our spirits and confirms who we really are. Parts of me covertly rebel, and just when I least expect it, they take charge. The very command that was supposed to guide me into life was cleverly used to trip me up, throwing me headlong. He acted to set things right in this life of contradictions where I want to serve God with all my heart and mind, but am pulled by the influence of sin to do something totally different. Christ is the end of the law so we can be justified and made righteous by faith in Jesus alone. But now that we’re no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we’re free to live a new life in the freedom of God. We go through exactly what Christ goes through. For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if he dies, she’s free. * 1 Hence, now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. It stands to reason, doesn’t it, that if the alive-and-present God who raised Jesus from the dead moves into your life, he’ll do the same thing in you that he did in Jesus, bringing you alive to himself? Isn’t that the real question? A new power is in operation. The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. With God on our side like this, how can we lose? But it’s not only around us; it’s within us. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. And we know we are going to get what’s coming to us—an unbelievable inheritance! Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. I. Anyone, of course, who has not welcomed this invisible but clearly present God, the Spirit of Christ, won’t know what we’re talking about. Romans 2:7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life (NASB: Lockman). Conference Message. Dealing with Romans 8:4-7, the flesh opposed to the Spirit. But now that we’re no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we’re free to live a new life in the freedom of God. Isn’t that the real question? All manner of concupiscence - It showed what was evil and forbade it; and then the principle of rebellion, which seems essential to the very nature of sins rose up against the prohibition; and he was the more strongly incited to disobey in proportion as obedience was enjoined. Scripture: Romans 8:1–35. Next message: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Previous message: Carl W. Conrad: "Fwd: Re: Iliad/ Odyssey" Next in thread: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Maybe reply: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Messages sorted by: [ attachment ] Mail actions: [ respond to this message ] [ mail a new topic ] 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.”. 25 The answer, thank God, is that Jesus Christ can and does. That’s certainly not true. That’s why we can be so sure that every detail in our lives of love for God is worked into something good. Romans 7-8 The Message (MSG) Torn Between One Way and Another. So if I can’t be trusted to figure out what is best for myself and then do it, it becomes obvious that God’s command is necessary. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. Paul explains how that happened in Romans 5:6-8. But the longer we wait, the larger we become, and the more joyful our expectancy. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. FROM TEXT TO TEACHING: ROMANS 8 Getting the Message Clear: The Theme. In the end, all we had to show for it was miscarriages and stillbirths. 13 I can already hear your next question: “Does that mean I can’t even trust what is good [that is, the law]? Contemporary Comparative Side-by-Side Bible (NIV, NKJV, NLT, THE Message), The Message Pocket Paperback Edition: New Testament, Psalms and Proverbs, The Message Raspberry Blossom, Personal Size + Topical Concordance, The Message Gift and Award Bible, Imitation Leather, Burgundy, The Message, Numbered Edition, Personal Size, with Topical Concordance, The Message Deluxe Gift Bible, Brown/Saddle Tan Leather-Look. I truly delight in God’s commands, but it’s pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight. Conference Message. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens. Reiche and Hofmann, following Oecumenius, (616) Estius, and others, arrange it so that to δόξαν κ. τι΄. I’m full of myself—after all, I’ve spent a long time in sin’s prison. 8-12 Don’t you remember how it was? But the law code itself is God’s good and common sense, each command sane and holy counsel. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. By hiding within God’s good commandment, sin did far more mischief than it could ever have accomplished on its own. None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. 1-2 With the arrival of Jesus, the Messiah, that fateful dilemma is resolved. Romans 10 teaches the word of faith. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The difficult times of pain throughout the world are simply birth pangs. Union with Christ: Mind-Renewing Foundations Desiring God 2014 Conference for Pastors. For as long as we lived that old way of life, doing whatever we felt we could get away with, sin was calling most of the shots as the old law code hemmed us in. And then, after getting them established, he stayed with them to the end, gloriously completing what he had begun. God’s Spirit beckons. Sin simply did what sin is so famous for doing: using the good as a cover to tempt me to do what would finally destroy me. Underlying question to this chapter that is still bothering some of you Jews, “Is the believer under the law?” Already told you Romans … That is what the gospel is all about -- freedom! Isn’t this also your experience?” Yes. The Son stands first in the line of humanity he restored. I’m at the end of my rope. Dr. Packer teaches in a very realistic method emulating the old Puritan way, and brings a good message for the Church today. The grand theme is assurance, from ‘no condemnation’ at the start to ‘no separation’ at the end of the chapter. Do you think anyone is going to be able to drive a wedge between us and Christ’s love for us? Parts of me covertly rebel, and just when I least expect it, they take charge. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. Dec 9, 2001. Scripture: Romans 8:3–4. I’m at the end of my rope. Free from Sin, Slaves of Righteousness, Part 1 What is the Meaning of "Under Law" and "Under Grace"? My decisions, such as they are, don’t result in actions. There are things to do and places to go! I can will it, but I can’t do it. We’re also feeling the birth pangs. Something has gone wrong deep within me and gets the better of me every time. Amplified: To those who by patient persistence in well-doing [springing from piety] seek [unseen but sure] glory and honor and [the eternal … Delivered by the Spirit Romans 8:1-4. But if he dies, she is quite free to marry another man in good conscience, with no one’s disapproval. 31-39 So, what do you think? And this made us all the more rebellious. IV. Isn’t this also your experience?” Yes. It would be easy to select just about any verse from chapter 8 to be on the list. The Spirit of life in Christ, like a strong wind, has magnificently cleared the air, freeing you from a fated lifetime of brutal tyranny at the hands of sin and death. I can will it, but I can’t do it. With his Spirit living in you, your body will be as alive as Christ’s! The Spirit of God is arousing us within. Romans 10:16 "But they have not all obeyed the gospel. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. The Solution Is Life on God’s Terms. I decide to do good, but I don’t really do it; I decide not to do bad, but then I do it anyway. CHAPTER 8. When God lives and breathes in you (and he does, as surely as he did in Jesus), you are delivered from that dead life. Romans 8:7-8 is often used to defend the Calvinistic doctrines of Total Depravity and total inability. The law always ended up being used as a Band-Aid on sin instead of a deep healing of it. 4-6 So, my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. When Christ died he took that entire rule-dominated way of life down with him and left it in the tomb, leaving you free to “marry” a resurrection life and bear “offspring” of faith for God. Romans 7:8: But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. Romans 12:7-8 - We look today at the gifts of teaching, exhortation, giving, mercy, leading and serving. Commentary on Romans 8:32-39 (Read Romans 8:32-39) All things whatever, in heaven and earth, are not so great a display of God's free love, as the gift of his coequal Son to be the atonement on the cross for the sin of man; and all the rest follows upon union with him, and interest in him. This is the central declaration of the gospel: Christ has come, he has died, he has risen again, and he has come into our hearts by means of the Holy Spirit in order that we who believe in him might be free. 8-12 Don’t you remember how it was? The good news is not only a gracious offer but a command to believe and repent. But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it. 21-23 It happens so regularly that it’s predictable. In his Son, Jesus, he personally took on the human condition, entered the disordered mess of struggling humanity in order to set it right once and for all. Sinclair Ferguson Feb 4 ... Romans 6:12–14. 15-17 This resurrection life you received from God is not a timid, grave-tending life. 21-23 It happens so regularly that it’s predictable. 5-8 Those who think they can do it on their own end up obsessed with measuring their own moral muscle but never get around to exercising it in real life. 29-30 God knew what he was doing from the very beginning. Apart from the succinct, surgical command, “You shall not covet,” I could have dressed covetousness up to look like a virtue and ruined my life with it. In between, the argument progresses in two main stages with a conclusion. Romans 7 New American Standard Bible (NASB) Believers United to Christ. Treasuring Christ and the Call to Suffer Part 1. Obsession with self in these matters is a dead end; attention to God leads us out into the open, into a spacious, free life. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. The moment I decide to do good, sin is there to trip me up. I realize that I don’t have what it takes. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. Defeated by the Law Romans 7:14-25. The very command that was supposed to guide me into life was cleverly used to trip me up, throwing me headlong. 14-16 I can anticipate the response that is coming: “I know that all God’s commands are spiritual, but I’m not. Utterly unfounded, in fine, is the objection of clumsiness (Hofmann); the symmetrical fulness of Romans 2:7-8, has a certain solemnity about it. Jesus laid down his life for us. 12-14 So don’t you see that we don’t owe this old do-it-yourself life one red cent. 18-21 That’s why I don’t think there’s any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. Those who trust God’s action in them find that God’s Spirit is in them—living and breathing God! Twelve Theses. I do, perfectly well. 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.” That’s certainly not true. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. Romans 7:5; Romans 7:8 Read chapter in The Message Bible. For if I know the law but still can’t keep it, and if the power of sin within me keeps sabotaging my best intentions, I obviously need help! So sin was plenty alive, and I was stone dead. Jesus laid down his life for you. By confessing with our mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and by believing this in our hearts, we are saved—nothing more, nothing less. By hiding within God’s good commandment, sin did far more mischief than it could ever have accomplished on its own. But for you who welcome him, in whom he dwells—even though you still experience all the limitations of sin—you yourself experience life on God’s terms. So sin was plenty alive, and I was stone dead. That is why waiting does not diminish us, any more than waiting diminishes a pregnant mother. As we have been reading through this great letter from Paul to the Romans, we have seen the gospel of Jesus Christ which is able to set men free. If she lives with another man while her husband is living, she’s obviously an adulteress. What more could God have done to show you how much you matter to him? It is the message of good news which those feet carry that is so welcome. I decide to do good, but I don’t really do it; I decide not to do bad, but then I do it anyway. 4-6 So, my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. The moment I decide to do good, sin is there to trip me up. 14-16 I can anticipate the response that is coming: “I know that all God’s commands are spiritual, but I’m not. The law code, weakened as it always was by fractured human nature, could never have done that. What I don’t understand about myself is that I decide one way, but then I act another, doing things I absolutely despise. To understand how the gifts of the Spirit are to operate in a local fellowship of Christians. For without the law sin was dead. Is there no one who can do anything for me? What astounds me as we look into Romans 12 is the universality of the gifts of the Spirit and the call to all of us to do our part in a godly way. Something has gone wrong deep within me and gets the better of me every time. 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.”. Love is sacrifical, read John 15:13. The first stage is verses 1-17, whose focus is the ministry of the Spirit. If God didn’t hesitate to put everything on the line for us, embracing our condition and exposing himself to the worst by sending his own Son, is there anything else he wouldn’t gladly and freely do for us? I’m absolutely convinced that nothing—nothing living or dead, angelic or demonic, today or tomorrow, high or low, thinkable or unthinkable—absolutely, Gain a concise, fundamental grasp of what the Bible is all about with our new, The Message, Ministry Edition: The Bible in Contemporary Language, The Message: Solo - An Uncommon Devotional, The Message Large-Print Devotional Bible, softcover, The Message Large-Print Deluxe Gift Bible--soft leather-look, navy. This is a combined, edited version of two articles that were first published in Norwegian: “Do you believe Romans 8:28?” from BCC’s periodical “Skjulte Skatter”(“Hidden Treasures”) in June 1949, and a transcript from a message by Elias Aslaksen in January 1976, “Everything Works Together for … That’s certainly not true. Leave a comment with your favorite verse if it is not listed here. 17-20 But I need something more! And who would dare tangle with God by messing with one of God’s chosen? I do, perfectly well. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. Anyone completely absorbed in self ignores God, ends up thinking more about self than God. And God isn’t pleased at being ignored. After God made that decision of what his children should be like, he followed it up by calling people by name. I’m full of myself—after all, I’ve spent a long time in sin’s prison. 7 We can understand someone dying for a person worth dying for, and we can understand how someone good and noble could inspire us to selfless sacrifice. To get a more biblical philosophy of the church. Paul emphasizes this in our text with a series of synonyms: we were helpless (5:6); ungodly (5:6); sinners (5:8); and, enemies (5:10). But now that we’re no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we’re free to live a new life in the freedom of God. 8 1-2 With the arrival of Jesus, the Messiah, that fateful dilemma is resolved. And this made us all the more rebellious. A new power is in operation. They kill us in cold blood because they hate you. Please enter your email address associated with your Salem All-Pass account, then click Continue. 2 For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has freed you from the law of sin and death. These sterile and barren bodies of ours are yearning for full deliverance. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. If we go through the hard times with him, then we’re certainly going to go through the good times with him! If there had never been any law, there could not have been any sin, because sin is a breaking of law. Sin simply did what sin is so famous for doing: using the good as a cover to tempt me to do what would finally destroy me. For apart from the law, sin was dead. For if I know the law but still can’t keep it, and if the power of sin within me keeps sabotaging my best intentions, I obviously need help! Romans 7 and 8 as he states is the home of … He knows us far better than we know ourselves, knows our pregnant condition, and keeps us present before God. Romans 3:7-8 It’s simply perverse to say, “If my lies serve to show off God’s truth all the more gloriously, why blame me? 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. Thus sin, the sting of death, received force or advantage to destroy by the commandment, Romans 7:8, Romans 7:11. There is no way! 3-4 God went for the jugular when he sent his own Son. My decisions, such as they are, don’t result in actions. God reins it in until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. When Christ died he took that entire rule-dominated way of life down with him and left it in the tomb, leaving you free to “marry” a resurrection life and bear “offspring” of faith for God. Is good just as dangerous as evil?” No again! Romans 8:15-17 For ye have no… Is good just as dangerous as evil?” No again! And now what the law code asked for but we couldn’t deliver is accomplished as we, instead of redoubling our own efforts, simply embrace what the Spirit is doing in us. John Piper Dec 9, 2001 491 Shares Sermon. So if I can’t be trusted to figure out what is best for myself and then do it, it becomes obvious that God’s command is necessary. Romans 7:8. There’s nothing in it for us, nothing at all. That's why Romans 5:8 points to the death of Christ. 13 I can already hear your next question: “Does that mean I can’t even trust what is good [that is, the law]? He acted to set things right in this life of contradictions where I want to serve God with all my heart and mind, but am pulled by the influence of sin to do something totally different. The One who died for us—who was raised to life for us!—is in the presence of God at this very moment sticking up for us. Focusing on the self is the opposite of focusing on God. Copyright © 1993, 2002, 2018 by Eugene H. Peterson, The Message (MSG). 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.” That’s certainly not true. Scripture: James 4:7-8; Romans 12:2; 2 Corinthians 4:16-18. … 24 I’ve tried everything and nothing helps. But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it. III. I’m absolutely convinced that nothing—nothing living or dead, angelic or demonic, today or tomorrow, high or low, thinkable or unthinkable—absolutely nothing can get between us and God’s love because of the way that Jesus our Master has embraced us. Freedom from self-centeredness, freedom from hostility and bitterness,freedom from anxiety and all kinds of fears, freedo… John Piper Feb 8, 1981 2.5K Shares Sermon. Authority Of Law - Romans 7:1. He didn’t deal with the problem as something remote and unimportant. Scripture: Romans 6:1–14. For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if he dies, she’s free. None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. I truly delight in God’s commands, but it’s pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God (Romans 8:7-8). The Flesh and the Spirit. Before we look at these terms, note: 22-25 All around us we observe a pregnant creation. Is there no one who can do anything for me? I realize that I don’t have what it takes. The best thing to do is give it a decent burial and get on with your new life. In the end, all we had to show for it was miscarriages and stillbirths. For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if … 17-20 But I need something more! What I don’t understand about myself is that I decide one way, but then I act another, doing things I absolutely despise. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. Upgrade to Bible Gateway Plus, and access the NEW NIV Study Bible Notes, Fully Revised Edition. 7 Or do you not know, brothers and sisters (for I am speaking to those who know the [] Law), that the [] Law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? As a recap from last week, I told you that the Holy Spirit gave me an analogy about how we experience spiritual seasons. 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